"Marching to Zion" Full Movie Transcript


May 14, 2015

Over 4,000 years ago, God appeared to Abraham in Mesopotamia and said to him, "Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will show thee. And I will make of thee a great nation." Abraham obeyed the Lord and came into the promised land of Canaan where he lived along with his son Isaac and his grandson Jacob, who was later renamed "Israel."

Israel and his 12 sons went down into Egypt because of a famine in the land of Canaan, and there they multiplied into a mighty nation. The Egyptians felt threatened by the powerful nation of Israel living among them, so they enslaved them and made their lives bitter with hard bondage. After 430 years in Egypt, they were lead out of bondage by Moses, then crossed the Red Sea and went into Arabia, where they received the law of God at Mount Sinai.

The generation of Israelites that left Egypt with Moses were not allowed to enter the promised land because of their lack of faith in the Lord. They were forced to wander in the wilderness for 40 years until a new generation rose up that trusted the Lord and entered the promised land with Joshua.

For about 400 years, the 12 tribes of Israel were ruled by the Judges according to the law of Moses. When they desired to have a king like all the other nations, God appointed Saul to be their king, who reigned over them for 40 years, followed by King David who reigned 40 years, and David's son Solomon who reigned 40 years. During the reign of Solomon, the kingdom of Israel was at its most glorious, and the first temple was built, but because Solomon's heart turned away from the Lord in his old age, God told him that 10 of the tribes would not be ruled by his son.

After the death of Solomon, the kingdom of Israel was divided, and the northern 10 tribes were ruled over by a series of wicked kings, who were not descended from David and Solomon. This Northern Kingdom retained the name of Israel and eventually had Samaria as its capital city. The smaller Southern Kingdom became known as Judah, had Jerusalem as its capital, and was reigned over by the descendants of David. Starting in 2 Kings 16, the people of the Southern Kingdom became known as "Jews" after the name of the kingdom of Judah.

Because of the wickedness of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, they were overthrown and taken captive by the Assyrians. The Israelites who remained became intermingled with the heathen nations who came in and occupied the land. These people would become known as the Samaritans, and the 10 tribes of Northern Israel would never be a nation again.

The Southern Kingdom of Judah would eventually be taken captive into Babylon as a punishment for serving other gods, and the temple would be destroyed, but after 70 years, the Jews returned to Judah, rebuilt the temple at Jerusalem, and continued to be ruled by kings descended from David.

At the time of Christ, the nation of Judah had become know as Judaea and was under Roman rule. Jesus Christ and his disciples preached the Gospel throughout Judaea seeking after the lost sheep of the house of Israel. After 3 and a half years of ministry, the Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah and convinced the Roman governor to crucify him. 3 days later, he rose again from the dead and showed himself alive to his disciples before ascending up to the right hand of the Father in Heaven.

Shortly before Jesus was crucified, he prophesied that as a punishment for rejecting him, Jerusalem would be burned, the temple would be destroyed, and the Jews would be led away captive into all nations. This prophecy was fulfilled in A.D. 70 when future Roman emperor Titus conquered Jerusalem. For over 1800 years, the Jews remained scattered throughout all nations.

Then in 1948, the impossible happened. The State of Israel was founded, and the Jews once again possessed the promised land. Many Christians have proclaimed this to be a miracle and a blessing from God, but was this really the blessing of the Lord, or were darker forces at work? This film has the answer.

Pastor Anderson: In order to understand the founding of the modern state of Israel, you have to understand the history of the Jews from A.D. 70 until that time, and you have to understand that their religion is no longer based on the Bible whatsoever. For example, ever since the temple was destroyed, they don't do ANY animal sacrifices.

Rabbi Mann: As far as the animal sacrifices are concerned, that's been discontinued.

Rabbi Abrami: Finished!

Rabbi Mann: And what developed in Judaism is the system of prayers, that sort of became a substitute.

Rabbi Wiener: Well, I think that was the beginning of modernization. I really believe that.

Leader Schesnol: Once that temple was destroyed, Jews did not have a central location. They were dispersed. They literally changed the nature of Judaism, and that portable form of Judaism led a transformation from priestly Judaism to Rabbinic Judaism.

Pastor Anderson: Judaism stopped being the religion of the Old Testament and began to be the religion of the rabbis and their traditions, or what they call "the Oral Torah."

Texe Marrs: The Talmud is the holy book of the Jews. It was the oral sayings of the rabbis. It's known as the wisdom of the rabbis.

Rabbi Abrami: The Talmud is a compilation of all the great discussions that took place from the 2nd century BC until the 5th century CE. It's a kind of encyclopedia of Jewish knowledge. The best way of calling it would be the Jewish wikipedia of the ages. Yes, because many people participated in it. It's not written by one person. Several hundred scholars - hundreds of authors.

Pastor Anderson: According to Judaism, the oral law, or what would later be known as the Talmud, was given to the 70 elders that came to the base of Mount Sinai but were not allowed to proceed any further. The Pharisees believed that these 70 elders received a much more extensive and profound revelation than Moses, which was not to be written down. It was only to be passed down orally. These oral traditions took precedence over the written Torah, or what we know as Genesis to Deuteronomy. Evidence of this is found in the Talmud itself:

Erubin 21b: "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the scribes than in the words of the Torah."

Rabbi Mann: That's what differentiates the orthodox from the non-orthodox.

Pastor Anderson: The non-orthodox see the Talmud as more man-made?

Rabbi Mann: More man-made in developing, and so on and so forth.

Pastor Anderson: Whereas you believe the Talmud is inspired by God.

Rabbi Mann: It's inspired by God. Yeah.

Rabbi Wiener: Anything to do with scripture is considered the word of God by a large segment of the...

Pastor Anderson: Including the Talmud?

Rabbi Wiener: Yes.

Texe Marrs: He said, "You don't believe in the religion of Moses. You have for your religion," he told the Jews, "You have for your religion the traditions of the elders."

In Mark 7:7, Jesus said of the Pharisees, "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

Pastor Anderson: And the Talmud is the doctrines of men.

Rabbi Mann: It's not possible for an ordinary person that's not trained to just read the Talmud and understand the oral law. It's very complex. You need a teacher.

Pastor Anderson: Has a typical rabbi read it cover to cover?

Rabbi Wiener: I don't know. It depends what they studied.

Pastor Anderson: Have you read it cover to cover?

Rabbi Wiener: I wouldn't say I've read all 36 volumes, but I've read several.

Pastor Anderson: You've read a lot of it obviously.

Rabbi Wiener: Yes, but I'm sure people that devote their energies to just study have done that.

Pastor Anderson: The Jews have always known throughout history that if Christians knew what was in the Talmud, it would make Christians very angry, and so the Jews were able to conceal their most blasphemous statements about the Lord Jesus Christ because people didn't speak Hebrew.

Texe Marrs: Here's what they say about Jesus in the Talmud. There are sections in there about Jesus. In fact, there is an entire book that has been written by the director of Judaic studies at Princeton University, Dr. Schäfer, a Jew. He has written a book "Jesus in the Talmud." So if you want to know what Jesus has to do with the Talmud, get his book "Jesus in the Talmud" by Dr. Schäfer.

Peter Schafer is the head of Judaic studies at Princeton University. In his book, “Jesus in the Talmud,” he documents and analyzes every time Jesus is mentioned in the pages of the Talmud.

Pastor Anderson: Keep in mind that the Talmud was written hundreds of years after Christ lived, and so it has references about Jesus in it, and they are hateful, blasphemous references.

According to the Talmud, Jesus was the product of adultery: the bastard son of Mary and a Roman Soldier named Pantera. He spent his early life in Egypt where he learned black magic, idolatry, and sorcery.

Texe Marrs: Jesus was born to a whore. Mary was a whore. She had sexual relations with many men. The father was a Roman centurion.

The Talmud further blasphemes the Lord Jesus by calling him a fool and comparing him with Old Testament villains such as Balaam, Ahitophel, Doeg and Gehazi.

Pastor Anderson: Does the Talmud talk about the Jews killing Jesus?

Rabbi Mann: Vaguely, but Maimonides believed that the Jews killed him - that the Jews executed him because of certain of his doctrines and so forth.

Pastor Anderson: Do you believe that the Jews killed Jesus?

Rabbi Mann: It's possible that the Jews did kill Jesus. Let's say they did. Maybe he deserved to die. Maybe he was a troublemaker. Let's assume we did. So we killed somebody.

Pastor Anderson: The Talmud actually gloats about Jesus dying young. The passage reads, "Hast thou heard how old Balaam was? He replied, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days. It follows that he was 33 or 34 years old." You say, "Wait, that passage says Balaam, not Jesus," but look at the footnote at the bottom of the page: "Balaam is frequently used in the Talmud as a type of Jesus." Not only that, but in the Jewish encyclopedia, Volume 2, page 469, under Balaam it says, "Balaam - given to Jesus in San Hedrin 106b and Gittin 57a.

Peter Schafer states in his book “Jesus in the Talmud” that there can be no doubt that the narrative of the execution in the Talmud refers to Jesus. In fact the book states, "There is no reason to feel ashamed because we rightfully executed a blasphemer and idolater. Jesus deserved death, and he got what he deserved.”

Elsewhere the book states, "He was a blasphemer and idolater, and although the Romans probably could not care less, we insisted that he get what he deserved. We even convinced the Roman governor (or more precisely: forced him to accept) that this heretic and impostor needed to be executed - and we are proud of it.”

Schafer said in an article that appeared in Publishers Weekly concerning his new book "I certainly don't want to harm Jewish-Christian dialogue. But dialogue requires honesty, and I'm trying to be honest.”

Texe Marrs: There are Messianic Jews today, who want to take the Talmud and make it Christian. How can you take a damnable book and make it Christian? All of these lies about Jesus are right there.

Rabbi Abrami: The church fathers blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus, and that is Paul's doing. It was Paul's doing in the epistle to the Thessalonians, chapter 2, verses 14 and 15:

"For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus..."

Pastor Anderson: Now, what does that say?

Rabbi Abrami: This has poisoned the minds of generations of Christians unfortunately. Did you know that?

Pastor Anderson: So, 1 Thessalonians 2...

Rabbi Abrami: This is Paul! To this day 26% of all Americans believe the Jews were responsible in the death of Jesus.

Texe Marrs: When Mel Gibson came out with his "The Passion of the Christ," they said, "Oh, he's an anti-semite! What a horrible person! He says the Jews killed Jesus!" Well, that's what the Bible says.

Rabbi Abrami: The film "The Passion of the Christ" when shown, it went from 26% to 36% because people are so gullible. It portrays the Jews as evil people, which is nonsense!

Pastor Anderson: The Jews call this "the myth that the Jews killed Jesus." Let me explain something to you: the fact that the Jews killed Jesus is not a myth. It's Bible.

Rabbi Abrami: Christians believed it, and they still do today. They still do today! It was ingrained in their mind. They blamed all the Jews, even though most of the Jews were not there.

Pastor Anderson: Look at Acts 3:13, it says:

"The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go."

Pastor Anderson: Here he is preaching to thousands of Jews, and he says:

"And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers."

Pastor Anderson: Wait a minute. I thought it was just the rulers? No, he said, "You did it, as also did your rulers." That means it wasn't just the rulers, it was the people also. If we read the scriptural account, the people were crying out, a mass throng of thousands and thousands of the Jews are crying out, "Crucify him!" And he says, "Shall I crucify your king?" "We have no king but Caesar." "I am free from the blood of this just person," said the Roman Pilate. "His blood be on us and on our children!" That's what they said.

Texe Marrs: It states in there that Jesus corrupted Judaism, and as punishment for his crimes, he is now in Hell burning in fiery excrement, and he shall so be forever.

Pastor Coleman: They hate Jesus Christ. They hate the name. I think it is because they are children of the Devil, not children of God. Therefore the Devil - think about the hatred he has for Christ, so what do you think his children are going to have?

Texe Marrs: The average Jew believes that the Old Testament is a wonderful book of myths and stories that have good meaning, but you can understand the Old Testament only by studying the Talmud and the Kabbalah.

Pastor Anderson: The Jews stop believing in the Torah starting in Genesis chapter 1.

Rabbi Wiener: I believe that creation is a design that is unending. Evolution is part of the process, and the beginning to me...you know, there are people who talk about the Big Bang Theory. I have no quarrel with them.

Pastor Anderson: So you don't take the beginning of Genesis with the Garden of Eden and the serpent...you don't take that literally then?

Rabbi Wiener: No, to me, those are parables.

Pastor Anderson: When you look at the key teachings of the books of Moses, Genesis to Deuteronomy, the Jews don't really believe any of these. Circumcision I know is a big part of...

Leader Schesnol: Ouch!

Pastor Anderson: It's a big part of Judaism I think. Am I right?

Leader Schesnol: It is.

Rabbi Wiener: If an adult comes to me for conversion and is not circumcised, then it is a very simple matter. You take a pin and just prick the p****, so that a drop of blood comes out, and that's enough.

Pastor Anderson: So it's more symbolic?

Rabbi Wiener: Right.

Leader Schesnol: Just to represent the willingness to be able to be part of that covenant.

Pastor Anderson: So, they don't remove the whole foreskin? They just do more of a symbolic...

Leader Schesnol: Exactly.

Pastor Anderson: Well, in the Torah, Abraham was 99 when he was circumcised, and his son Ishmael was 13, but nowadays they don't?

Leader Schesnol: They don't.

Pastor Anderson: Now we as New Testament Christians don't practice circumcision, but the Jews, remember, are saying that they still follow that Mosaic law, so if they were actually following it, they would have to remove the foreskin and circumcise that adult convert. That's what the Torah teaches.

Pastor Berzins: I've heard it said so many times, "Oh, the Jews just believe the Old Testament. They believe everything we do, just without Jesus," and that is a lie. They don't believe God. They don't believe Jesus Christ. They don't believe the Old Testament, and they don't believe the New Testament. They don't believe any of it.

Rabbi Wiener: And how is it determined which is good and which is bad? That's called "civilization." People get together and determine, "You shouldn't steal." So civilization says, "That's bad." That's how you measure good. If you come from a society where stealing is good, then that's how that civilization determines good from bad. If you don't steal, you're bad. If you do steal, you're part of us.

Pastor Anderson: Is there an absolute right and wrong where stealing is always wrong because God said so?

Rabbi Wiener: There's no absolute in my opinion.

Pastor Romero: It says in John 5:46-47

"For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"

Pastor Romero: Jesus Christ is telling the Jews of his day that they did not believe Moses. Their whole claim was that they believe Moses, and they don't believe him, but he explains here, that if you don't believe in him, then you don't believe in Moses.

Rabbi Wiener: We practice differently. We believe differently, and maybe our approach is different, but the destination is the same. We're trying to reach God, and that's the whole objective.

Pastor Anderson: So you believe that all religions are going to the same destination, just taking different routes to get there?

Rabbi Wiener: Exactly! And different ways to get there, and different understandings of how they get there, but that doesn't make one better than the other. There is no one path to God. There is no one understanding of God. To understand God, we have to understand each other. We have to understand ourselves.

Rabbi Abrami: There is no such thing as a salvation that transforms. You do what is right, and you save yourself at every moment. God is not in Heaven. If someone starts telling me that a soul is in Heaven...what do they know about the souls, the spiritual souls of people in Heaven? This is for children! You have to tell them this way. "How come grandfather didn't come home today?" "Oh, he's in Heaven."

Pastor Anderson: What about Hell? Is Hell something that is part of Judaism, or no? Being like a place of fiery punishment...

Rabbi Abrami: I have been in Hell. What we call Hell is the Valley of Hinnom.

Pastor Anderson: Tophet also, right?

Rabbi Abrami: There is a place right outside of Jerusalem that is called the Valley of the sons of Hinnom. It was a place where pagans used to offer human sacrifices, and by extrapolation, somehow they imagined that there was a place like that in the universe somewhere where wicked people would be going.

Pastor Anderson: So you don't believe that the Old Testament teaches any kind of a literal Hell?

Rabbi Abrami: No.

Pastor Anderson: Okay, alright.

Rabbi Wiener: A lot of people will tell you the Bible says that if you don't do something you'll have a bad life, or you'll go to the netherworld...

Pastor Anderson: Hell

Rabbi Wiener: Right, well, we don't subscribe to that anyway, but my feeling is different.

Pastor Anderson: If the Jews don't believe in the creation story of Genesis 1, they don't believe the story of Adam and Eve literally, they don't believe in Noah, they don't believe in the Tower of Babel, they scoff at these stories, they don't believe in circumcising adults, they don't believe in the animal sacrifices, what part of the Torah do they believe in?! This is supposedly their most exalted book, yet when you look at all the particulars of what the Torah teaches, they don't believe any of it.

Pastor Anderson: Today you have a lot of evangelical Christians in America that are very pro-Israel.

Rabbi Mann: Very.

Pastor Anderson: Christians are just really zealous in their support of Israel. Now has it always been that way throughout history?

Leader Schesnol: Oh, God, no!

Pastor Anderson: or is that a newer phenomenon?

Leader Schesnol: No, it hasn't been that way throughout history.

Rabbi Mann: Traditionally Christianity was essentially anti-Semitic. The phenomenon of the Christian Zionists is relatively recent. They maintain that the Jews are God's chosen people and will always be God's chosen people. They use the term "the apple of God's eye."

Pastor Anderson: And that's a more recent phenomenon?

Rabbi Mann: Yeah, I'd say a few hundred years, as far as I know. That does not go all the way back.

Rabbi Abrami: Replacement theology has played a very important role in Christianity.

TV Preacher 1: What is replacement theology?

Hal Lindsey: Replacement theology is the root and branch of Christian anti-Semitism.

TV Preacher 2: It's like a virus in the church.

TV Preacher 3: Basically it is saying that the church now has superseded Israel, and this theology that discards the place of the Jewish people and replaces it with the church, the new and true spiritual Israel, is very dangerous because I believe it's the primary root of anti-Semitism.

Rabbi Abrami: Many theologians all through the centuries have preached replacement theology.

Pastor Anderson: Can you name some that have preached that?

Rabbi Abrami: I have here everything about John Chrysostom. He is the chief anti-Semite of the church.

John Chrysostom: “The synagogue is worse than a brothel…it is the den of scoundrels and the repair of wild beasts…the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults…the refuge of debauchees, and the cavern of devils. It is a criminal assembly of Jews…a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ…a den of thieves, a dwelling of iniquity, the refuge of devils, a gulf and an abyss of perdition. I would say the same things about their souls.”

Rabbi Abrami: They have demonized the Jews. This is still present in the minds of many.

Pastor Anderson: Throughout history, Christians have not looked at the Jews as God's chosen people. They looked at them as a people that rejected Christ and were therefore rejected by God. For example, the last book written by Martin Luther before he died was called "On the Jews and Their Lies," and in this book, he gives all kinds of scriptural arguments for why the Jews are not God's chosen people, and he also exposes a lot of the blasphemous teachings of the Talmud.

Texe Marrs: His very last sermon, he preached about the Jews, and he said the Jews hate our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and through their perfidious behavior, they create all kinds of stratagems and ruses to deceive us. And he got so angry at them, he actually said we should go and burn all their copies of the Talmud. He was infuriated about the Talmud. Of course, today the Jews consider him a great anti-Semite.

Rabbi Abrami: St. Augustine was no better.

Pastor Anderson: He was also anti-Semitic?

Rabbi Abrami: That's right! He was very demeaning. All this is pure hatred.

Pastor Anderson: It doesn't matter whether you're listening to John Chrysostom, St. Augustine, Peter the Venerable, Martin Luther, John Calvin...you name the church father. You name the protestant leader throughout history. They are all saying the same thing about the Jews: that they're the Synagogue of Satan, that it's a false religion. This doctrine that the Jews are still God's chosen people is a new doctrine.

Texe Marrs: You know, back before the late 1800s, everybody recognized what we're talking about now, but something began to change, first with Dr. Cyrus Scofield.

Pastor Furse: C.I. Scofield was a divorced man. He had trouble with alcohol. He was a lawyer turned preacher. He left his first wife Leontine Cerrè in 1883. That's the year AFTER he wrote his first book "Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth." So in 1882 he writes his first book "Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth," and in 1883 he leaves his first wife, marries another lady, and then becomes a pastor in Texas - very famous, very popular. Scofield's dispensational, premillennial Bible was edited with financial assistance from prominent businessmen, some of which had questionable religious ties.

Texe Marrs: He had Jewish retainers who made him a member of the Lotus club - sort of a secret society - and suddenly he had plenty of money. This corrupt lawyer who had abandoned his wife and was found guilty of numerous offenses as a corrupt attorney - but Scofield was given money, and the Oxford group out of England published his Bible. Why would they take a crooked lawyer and make him the editor of a Bible? And then suddenly they had millions of dollars to promote it. With that amount of money, the Bible took off, and it basically sealed the deal for the Jews.

Pastor Anderson: The Scofield Reference Bible is very pro-Israel, very Zionist, and this book more than any other book changed the thinking of an entire generation of young preacher boys.

Pastor Jimenez: Another belief that Christians have today, that is an incorrect belief, that is not found in scripture, is the belief that we should bless Israel. They go back to what they refer to as the Abrahamic covenant. They go back to Genesis 12, and they say, "We have to bless Israel if we want God's blessing, we have to bless them."

Genesis 12:1-3 is the key scripture where God calls and blesses Abraham. It reads, “Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: and I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: and I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”

Pastor Anderson: Now according to this scripture, God is making a covenant with Abraham, and he tells Abraham, "I will bless THEE." The word "thee" is singular. He is speaking to Abraham. Well, in Scofield's notes on Genesis 12, he applies this blessing unto the future nation of Israel. That is not what the scripture teaches. Many evangelical Christians today do not get their doctrine on Israel from anything that's written in the New Testament. They are getting it from the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible. When you are reading these promises made to Abraham in the Old Testament, you have to realize what the Bible teaches in Galatians 3:16, when it says:

" Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made..."

Pastor Jimenez: Now if we stopped right there, all the Christians of today, or Zionists, or whoever, could say, "See! It was to Abraham and his seed, but the verse goes on. It says:

"He saith not, And to seeds..." (with an "s" at the end making it plural)

"He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ."

Pastor Anderson: So according to the Bible, the promises made to Abraham were made unto Abraham and unto Christ, and the Bible says in verse 29:

"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

Pastor Anderson: According to the Bible, we as Christians, whether we be Jew or Gentile, are the heirs of the promises made to Abraham. Those today, who are in the Middle East in the nation of Israel, they are not in Christ. 99% of them do not believe in Jesus Christ. Therefore they are not the seed of Abraham. Therefore Genesis 12:1-3 does not apply unto them.

Pastor Furse: People will say, "Well, we have got to support Israel if we want God's blessing on ourselves, if we want God's blessing on our church, if we want God's blessing on our nation, we must support a physical Israel. Well, if you just count back the last 66 or 67 years of American history, do you find the blessing of God on our country? Did we have legalized abortion back in the 1940s? No, it has come since then. What was our debt in the 1940s versus today? What were we like then compared to what we are now? You can't convince me that the blessings of God have fallen on this country because a "promise" to support a physical group of people somehow correlates to blessings from God.

Pastor Anderson: Not only that, but if you look at the history of the Jews over the last 2,000 years, have they been blessed by God? No, they've been persecuted and hated in every country that they've been in. This book right here has a list of all of the countries that the Jews have been thrown out of over the last 1,000 years, and when you look at this huge list, you have to ask yourself, "Why have they been so hated and persecuted everywhere that they've lived?" The answer is because of their blasphemy toward Christianity and because of their predatory lending practices.

In the late 1800s, persecution of the Jews in Russia and elsewhere intensified, and many Jews began to believe that their only hope for a prosperous future would be to possess a state of their own. This belief became known as "Zionism."

Rabbi Abrami: The Jewish state was the realization of the great project of Theodore Hertzl.

Pastor Anderson: Theodore Hertzl?

Rabbi Wiener: He was the founder of Zionism.

Rabbi Mann: He came to the idea that the cause of anti-Semitism is that the Jews do not have a state of their own.

Rabbi Abrami: And he wrote a little booklet "The State of the Jews," and he said there is only one way of protecting the Jewish people in the future: for the Jews to leave Europe and to settle in their homeland, the land of Israel. That book became the Bible of Zionism.

Rabbi Wiener: Zionism was the formation of the hope for the rebirth. It started with World War 1 - the Balfour Declaration.

Rabbi Mann: The Balfour Declaration was significant. It wasn't just a letter to a friend.

Pastor Anderson: I understand it was major document...

Rabbi Mann: ...in terms of expressing British policy.

Pastor Anderson: So the Balfour Declaration was a letter from Lord Balfour...

Rabbi Abrami: ...to Lord Rothschild.

Pastor Anderson: In World War 1, Turkey was an ally of Germany, who was the losing side, so the Turkish-Ottoman Empire was dismantled. Because the Turkish Empire was dismantled after World War 1, the British Lord Balfour wrote a declaration saying that it should be a homeland for the Jews.

Rabbi Abrami: Yes, that was the beginning of the larger immigration - tens of thousands of Jews from Eastern Europe mainly went to settle in Israel.

Pastor Anderson: The Balfour Declaration was a letter written to Lord Rothschild, so in order to understand the Balfour Declaration, we have to know who Rothschild was.

Mayer Amschel Rothschild: Money is power! Money is the only weapon that the Jew has to defend himself with!

Mayer Amschel Bauer, born in Frankfurt, Germany, in 1744, was a money lender and goldsmith on Jew Street, whose shop had a sign out front with a red hexagram on it. Eventually, he would change his name to "Rothschild" which is German for "red sign."

Rothschild soon learned that loaning money to governments and kings was more profitable than loaning money to private individuals. Not only were the loans bigger, but they were secured by the nation's taxes. Mayer Rothschild had 5 sons whom he trained in the skills of money creation and sent out to the major capitals of Europe to open branches of the family banking business.

Mayer Amschel Rothschild: You are five brothers. I want you each to start a banking business in a different country - one to go and open a house in Paris, one in Vienna, one in London - choose the most important centers, so that when money is to be sent from here to London, let us say, you won't have to risk life and gold. Amschel here in Frankfurt will just send a letter to Nathan in London saying, "Pay so and so," and that will be offset by loans from London to Frankfurt. Do you understand?

Five sons: Yes, father.

Mayer Amschel Rothschild: In your day, there will be many wars in Europe, and nations that have money to transport will come to the Rothschilds because it will be safe. Your five banking houses may cover Europe, but you will be one firm - one family: the Rothschilds, who work always together. That will be your power.

When Mayer Amschel Rothschild died in 1812, he left a will instructing his sons in how the House of Rothschild would be operated.

- All key positions in the House of Rothschild were to be held by members of the family.
- The family was to intermarry with their own first and second cousins, thus preserving the vast fortune.
- Rothschild's heirs were strictly forbidden to ever disclose the amount of their wealth

The whole family was driven by an insatiable lust for the accumulation of wealth and power. They secretly financed both sides in various European wars, dominated European banking, and by the mid-1800s had become the richest family in the world.

Texe Marrs: Rothschild helped found Israel, and Rothschild has always been the backer of Israel. Whatever Rothschild wants, he gets. It is believed that he is the richest man in the world, and I have little doubt of that.

Although the Balfour Declaration was given to Lord Rothschild in 1917, it would not be until 1947 that the plan for a Jewish state would be implemented. It would take the horrors of World War 2 to get public opinion behind creating a Jewish state in the land of Palestine.

Pastor Anderson: In 1947, the United Nations declared that there would be two states in Palestine. There would be a Jewish state and a Palestinian state.

US Ambassador: The United States delegation supports the basic principles of the unanimous recommendations by the United Nations, which provide for a partition and immigration.

Announcer: Later, Russia supported the United States on the partition recommendation, while Arab states threatened reprisals, as the holy land's future hangs in the balance.

Texe Marrs: But Israel became the first state, and they've never allowed Palestine to become a state, so they've made sure that the United Nations provision has never been put into effect.

On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the Executive Head of the Zionist Organization declared “the establishment of the Jewish State in the land of Israel.”

Announcer: In May 1948, a new Jewish state "Israel" was born in a bath of blood. Jewish troops routed Arab forces from the city of Haifa in the first of a series of battles that were to reverberate through the years. The new government headed by David Ben-Gurion is installed in Tel Aviv. Thus for the first time since the Roman legion destroyed Jerusalem in the year 70 A.D., the Jewish people have a nation of their own.

Pastor Jimenez: Today a lot of Christians think that God brought the nation of Israel back, and God did this wonderful work, but was it really the will of God to bring these people into Israel, or was it the will of the United Nations?

Pastor Anderson: The Bible tells us very clearly in Hebrews 4 that when they first came to the promised land with Moses, "They could not enter in because of unbelief." Then 40 years later, their children who believed the Lord were allowed to enter the promised land. Then later, they worshiped other gods, and what did God do? He removed them from the promised land. They went to Babylon for 70 years. Then after they repented and turned away from their false gods, they were brought back to the promised land. Then when they rejected Jesus Christ, they were removed from the promised land again, and then in 1947, they all believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, and God brought them back to the promised land. Is that what happened? No!

Pastor Coleman: Did they believe in Christ? Look, Christian out there, ask yourself this question: Was there a revival going on in Israel? Were people accepting Jesus as their Messiah? The answer is no. Therefore that was not God bringing back Israel because they believed in him. He said he would scatter them if they didn't keep his word, and he did. He said he would bring them back when they turned unto him. They have not turned unto him.

Pastor Anderson: So if it's not the Lord who brought them back, who did bring them back? It was the spirit of antichrist that brought them back to the promised land. It was the United Nations who brought them back to the promised land.

Announcer: Thus history was made as the Jewish state of Israel was born. Conceived in strife and weaned on violence, Israel has flourished to become a constructive voice in world affairs. Her flag became a symbol of hope in a troubled world.

Pastor Anderson: The star of David? Where does that symbol come from?

Rabbi Abrami: It's never written explicitly in the Bible itself?

Rabbi Wiener: Is it in the Talmud?

Leader Schesnol: No.

Pastor Anderson: Is there a passage in the Bible about that, or no?

Rabbi Wiener: No.

Pastor Anderson: So you're not really sure exactly where that comes from?

Rabbi Wiener: No.

Rabbi Mann: You've got me!

Pastor Anderson: So nobody knows, huh?

Rabbi Mann: I don't know.

Pastor Anderson: Because I know it's called the star of David. Does it have anything to do with David?

Rabbi Mann: No, I don't think so.

Rabbi Abrami: There must be somewhere. I do not remember exactly what the association was.

Pastor Anderson: I believe that what they call "the star of David" is actually the star of Remphan because when you study the Bible, you see that when they worshiped other gods, the Bible talks about them carrying the banner of the star of their god Remphan.

Texe Marrs: You rejected the God of the Bible. You took up for yourself the star (that's the 6-pointed star) of your god called Remphan or Chiun. All these were names for Molech, the great Baal, the great fire god who is the Devil.

Paul Wittenberger: Beelzebub.

Texe Marrs: That's right. Beelzebub. And they were shocked about this. Now, who is this star god? If they only read their Old Testament, they would know this. In Amos, God said you have taken up the star, and you've made me furious by doing that, and you have actually sacrificed your own children to the star god through the fires. They sacrificed their own children. The Jews did to the star god.

Pastor Anderson: When they worshiped a false god, they had the star of Remphan as an icon and as a symbol. We never see a "star of David" in scripture, but the star of the false god Remphan, and so we know today that they are not worshiping the true god because the Bible says, "Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also." If the Jews do not believe on the Son, the Bible says they don't have the Father. So who do they have? Somebody else. A false god. Therefore they are not worshiping the same God we worship. Some people will say, "Oh, they worship God the Father, but they just don't acknowledge Jesus," but the Bible teaches that it's impossible to worship the Father if you don't acknowledge the Son.

Texe Marrs: If you get back to the Masonic fraternity of freemasonry, their great symbol is G. You look at the star on the compass, which is a stylized star of David. In fact, they have the entire star of David in many masonic temples. Why is that? Masonry is a study of Judaism and of the Kabbalah.

The Jewish tribune newspaper on October 28, 1927, stated, "Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual, and what is left?"

Texe Marrs: Albert Pike said in his book "Morals and Dogma" that the Kabbalah is the very basis. Without the Kabbalah we would not have the 33 rituals of the masonic lodge. But the god they worship, the great architect, is Moloch, the star god. If anyone tells me that the Jews were not placed under a great curse by Jesus himself...it's there.

Pastor Jimenez: In John 8:37, it's interesting because Jesus said this: "I know that ye are Abraham's seed." So he's acknowledging the fact that they are physical descendants of Abraham. He said, "I know that ye are Abraham's seed, but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your Father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham." So it's interesting because in verse 37, he acknowledged that they're Abraham's seed, that they're physical descendants of Abraham, but then in verse 39, he's questioning, he's saying, "If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham," and he's basically saying that they are not the children of Abraham because, like we already talked about later in the passage, he says, "Ye are of your father the Devil." So it is interesting that Jesus himself said that you can be a physical descendant of Abraham, and be of the seed of Abraham, and he doesn't consider you a child of Abraham.

Rabbi Abrami: There is another passage in the Gospel of John: John chapter 8 verse 44 where he says that the Jews are the sons of the Devil. That's what he was preaching!

Pastor Jimenez: Jesus himself taught, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." So according to the Lord Jesus Christ, they are of their father the Devil. So Jesus believed that they weren't following Abraham, they weren't following Moses, they weren't following the prophets, they weren't following God. He says that they were following their father the Devil.

Texe Marrs: In Revelation 2 and 3 there are interesting verses which talk about them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Pastor Anderson: It's not hard to figure out who the "synagogue of Satan" is when you realize that there is only one religion in this world that uses synagogues: Judaism. It's not hard to figure out who they are when the Bible tells us that they say they're Jews, and they're not. Not everyone in this world goes around saying, "I'm a Jew." People who practice Judaism say that they're Jews. You say, "Well, Pastor Anderson, they say they are Jews, but they really are." No, because Romans 2:28 says, "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." The Bible says, "We are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh." So in God's eyes, they are not Jews, they are the synagogue of Satan. The Bible says in Revelation 3:9, "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Now why would God have to make the synagogue of Satan to know that God loved the church at Philadelphia? Because the Jews think that God loves only them. They don't think that God loves the Gentiles at Philadelphia, and that is why God said, "I am going to make the synagogue of Satan to know that I have loved you." God loves the children of the world. Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. In 1 John 2:22, the Bible gives us a definition of what an antichrist is:

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

Pastor Anderson: In order to believe that Jesus is not the Christ, you have to believe that there is a Christ, and that it's not Jesus.

Pastor Jimenez: John 4 tells us that the word "messiah" means "Christ." The woman at the well said, "I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ," so we know that the definition of the word "Christ" is "messiah." So, in 1 John 2:22 when it says, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ, " what it's saying is, "Who is a liar but he that denieth Jesus is the messiah." What group of people believes that there is a messiah but does not believe that Jesus was that messiah? Again, those are the Jews.

Pastor Anderson: Let me just see if I can characterize this right then. Basically the Jewish belief on Jesus...obviously you don't believe he was the messiah, but do you think that he was just another in a long string of false messiahs?

Rabbi Mann: Yes, if the claim was made that he was the Messiah, then he was a false messiah.

Rabbi Abrami: Jesus never said, "I am the Messiah."

Rabbi Mann: The Jewish people would have been interested in the Messiah. They are waiting for Messiah. They want Messiah, so if he had any of the real characteristics of the Messiah, they would have been interested in him. But he had 12 disciples. That's not a lot. You're talking about the nation of the Jews with all the scholars. They weren't won over to him.

Pastor Anderson: They didn't believe in him.

Rabbi Mann: Not at all! The Christians invented the idea of a failed messiah. Even though he failed, he's still the Messiah. We reject that. If you fail, then you're not the Messiah.

Pastor Anderson: They're still looking for another messiah to come, and we know that that other messiah that's coming is the antichrist. What does a Jewish messiah look like?

Rabbi Abrami: A very powerful king that will establish peace and good will on earth. You have to be able to establish peace.

Pastor Anderson: World peace?

Rabbi Abrami: World peace.

Rabbi Mann: When the real messiah makes his appearance in such a dramatic fashion that it can't be denied, then everyone will acknowledge that he's the real messiah.

Pastor Anderson: Worldwide?

Rabbi Mann: Worldwide. Even the non-Jews because they're all looking forward to the Messiah.

Pastor Anderson: So when the Messiah comes, you're saying the whole world is going to believe on him?

Rabbi Mann: Yeah, the entire world because his purpose will be to bring the entire world to the proper observance. All the nations will stream toward Jerusalem to learn from him. It will initiate a period of world peace. The Messiah will be a tremendous charismatic figure with great knowledge and communication skills. He will also be a great warrior. He will be the defender of the Jews, and he will defeat all their enemies in a permanent kind of way.

Pastor Romero: If you listen to how the Jews describe their messiah, they paint a perfect picture of what the Bible describes as the antichrist. He is going to conquer the entire world. He is going to bring peace through war.

Pastor Anderson: He is going to be believed in by all religions of the world. He is going to bring world peace. He is going to unite us all.

Texe Marrs: So many Christians are precious, and they don't know what they're doing. I was at a prophecy conference in Florida, and a lady came up to me, and she was wearing the star of David. I asked he why she was wearing that, and she said, "Oh, well it is so important that we show our support for Israel." I said, "How do you show your support for Israel." She said, "I give money every month to the Temple Mount Foundation." Well, that's this Jewish group, and I said, "Don't you know that 2 Thessalonians 2 says the antichrist will go into that temple and declare himself God, and above every other God?" She says, "Well, I just think I'm helping to fulfill Bible prophecy." I said, "You are! You're helping the antichrist to come! Who would want to do that!"

Rabbi Jeremy Gimpel: When a man comes, and he fights the wars of Israel, defeats the enemies, builds the temple, peace on earth - the leader that did that, we will all kneel before the king. Do you know what I mean? Whoever that is. So, your vision of that - you say it's a second coming. Okay. We say it's a first coming.

Pastor Anderson: Look, the Jews are ready to accept the antichrist as their messiah, and yet Christians are being taught that in the end times, all the Jews are going to believe on Jesus Christ. Well, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what the Devil is doing here. When the Jews accept the antichrist as their messiah, then all of the apostate Christians are going to point to that and say, "Look, this is the second coming of Jesus Christ! Look, all the Jews believe on him!" What is the Devil's goal with the antichrist? To get people to believe that he is the second coming of Jesus Christ. And like all other false doctrine, it is based on taking one scripture completely out of context. They will take the end of Romans 11 and completely ignore the beginning of Romans 11, and they will just go straight to the end, straight to verse 26, "And so all Israel shall be saved," and they will say, "See, right there! In the end times, everybody in Israel is going to get saved. They are going to believe in Jesus!" They are forgetting that the Bible just finished telling us in Romans 9 that "they are not all Israel which are of Israel." The physical descendants are not the true Israel! He said, "He is not a Jew which is one outwardly. He is a Jew which is one inwardly." It is those of us who believe in Jesus Christ who are Israel. How could you look at an unsaved person and say, "They are Israel," when the Bible says, "All Israel shall be saved"? That tells me that anyone who is not saved is not Israel. It is the antichrist, not Jesus Christ, who is going to unite Jews with false Christians and with every other religion of the world.

In order for the Jewish antichrist to unite all religions of the world, the Devil must convince mainstream Christianity to see the Jews as fellow believers, in spite of their rejection and blasphemy of Jesus Christ. Tele-evangelists, such as John Hagee, ignore the clear teachings of the New Testament, and apply the promises made to Abraham in Genesis 12:1-3, to modern-day, Christ-rejecting Israel. Anyone who holds a biblical view that the Jews are no longer God's chosen people, is labeled by the media as an anti-Semite.

John Hagee: Israel's fight is our fight! We are one! We are united! We will not be discouraged! We will not be defeated! We will not be intimidated! We will not sit down! We will not be silent! We are the worst nightmare of the anti-Semites of the world, and the victory is going to be ours!

Ted Cruz: If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you. Thank you, and God bless you.

Joel Osteen: We stand with the people of Israel.

Robert Jeffress: I am asking you to join with me and every Christian, and every Jew, and every freedom-loving American, to demand that this president and congress do whatever is necessary to eradicate the evil of ISIS and radical Islam from the face of the earth. It is time to act now.

Woman preacher 1: "And I will bless them that bless you and curse him that curses you."

Woman preacher 2: You don't want to be an enemy of Israel.

Woman preacher 1: "And in you shall all families of the earth be blessed."

Woman preacher 2: Yes, amen.

TV preacher 4: You're either for or against her. You are one of the two.

John Hagee: The man, the church, the nation, that blesses the state of Israel and the Jewish people will be blessed beyond measure.

Benny Hinn: Blessing Israel doesn't just mean to say, "Well, I bless you." You have to stand with them in their hour of need.

Pastor Anderson: Of course the Bible says in 2 John 9-11 that

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

Pastor Anderson: And what are you doing when you bid someone God speed? You are blessing them. So today's evangelical Christianity is saying that we must bless Israel if we want God to bless us, yet 2 John teaches that if we bless those who deny the Son of God, we are a partaker of their evil deeds.

Texe Marrs: Evangelicals, of course, are a great segment of American Christianity - the Southern Baptists, the Pentecostals, Assemblies of God - all of these are very fervent groups, and they have basically been very pro-Israel, pro-Zionist. Many of them have actually closed the door to conversion by saying, "Oh, you don't need Jesus. You're a Jew."

In the Houston Chronicle, John Hagee was quoted as saying:

"I'm not trying to convert the Jewish people to the Christian faith. There is nothing in "The Night to Honor Israel" that does that. In fact, trying to convert Jews is a "waste of time." The Jewish person who has his roots in Judaism is not going to convert to Christianity. Everyone else, whether Buddhist or Baha’i, needs to believe in Jesus. But not Jews. Jews already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced with Christianity."

Pastor Anderson: And really that is the most anti-Semitic thing you could possibly say: "Don't evangelize the Jews." That is going to send the Jews to Hell. The Bible says:

"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."

Pastor Anderson: Yet John Hagee teaches that the Jews are already good to go and that we don't need to evangelize the Jews.

Pastor Furse: Well, John Hagee is totally wrong. The Bible tell us that we are to win the lost, and that we are to preach the Gospel to every creature. Now I mentioned earlier about C.I. Scofield being divorced and remarried. Isn't it interesting that John Hagee is the same story: divorced his wife, remarried another lady, and leads a large Pentecostal church, and emphasizes Israel to the point of idolatry.

John Hagee: Free is free indeed! Give him praise and glory in the house of God.

Announcer: From the 18,000 people who belong to his church in San Antonio, TX, to the 99 million homes he says tune into his weekly radio and television broadcast, John Hagee has built an empire sharing the Gospel of Israel with evangelicals around the world. And as the leader of CUFI, his power extends from the pulpit to politics.

Pastor Anderson: John Hagee is a blasphemous false teacher who teaches that Jesus Christ did not come to this earth to be the Messiah.

John Hagee: "In Defense of Israel" will shake Christian theology. It scripturally proves that the Jewish people as a whole did not reject Jesus as Messiah. It will also prove that Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah. It will prove that there was a Calvary conspiracy between Rome, the high priest, and Herod to execute Jesus as an insurrectionist too dangerous to live. Since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah, how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered? Read it in this shocking expose, "In Defense of Israel."

Announcer: This later book by Pastor John Hagee is destined to generate lively discussions among Christians the world over.

Pastor Furse: John Hagee is not an independent Baptist, nor a King James Bible believer, so a lot of guys that watch this documentary will say, "Well, that's not our guys." All right, well how about Sam Gipp, who just about a year ago preached in a church in Idaho and said (and I can almost quote it word for word), "You know what I never call Jesus? I never call him my Messiah."

Sam Gipp: You know what I never call Jesus Christ? I never call him my messiah. Do you know why? You say, "Well, he's the Messiah." He ain't your Messiah! Unless you're a Jew, he's not your Messiah. Are you from Gentile stock? All right, we were never promised a Messiah."

Pastor Furse: I'm sorry, but Sam Gipp is wrong, and he might be popular even among independent Baptists, but that is wrong, whether it is Sam Gipp or Peter Ruckman, or whoever it is. The word of God is the word of God, and we don't allow, whether it's Scofield, or John Hagee, or our favorite preacher, or our favorite professor or teacher, to influence what the word actually says. Jesus Christ is the Messiah. He is my Messiah. He is everyone's Messiah.

Hagee goes on to say in the Houston Chronicle article, "Many Christian theologians are anti-Semitic because they say the covenant with the Jews is gone - that Jews have been replaced by Christianity, and that Israel does not deserve American military and support."

Not only do Christian zionists like Hagee teach that CHRISTIANS must support Israel, they also demand that the US government support Israel militarily and financially. And because evangelical Christians make up a large part of the voting populace, politicians dutifully make the trip to Israel to pray to the Jewish god at the Wailing Wall.

MSNBC Announcer 1: There are a lot of socially conservative, evangelical, Republican voters who care a lot about this issue, and if they can see Ted Cruz coming out on Fox News and saying, "I am 100% behind Israel." When they see that happening, a lot of conservative voters are going to say, "Hey, this Cruz guy is better than I thought!"

MSNBC Announcer 2: In fact, they just had the Christians United for Israel event, which is an organization of evangelical Christians that are very, very pro-Israel. This is an image - I think we have this - of Rand Paul praying with them. There he is. He is praying with the CUFI folks.

Ted Cruz: Let me say this: those who hate Israel hate America, and those who hate Jews hate Christians.

Jim Staley: So opposition to Israel is opposition to God, and I don't care what they believe and where they are at on the spiritual timeline because it's not my problem. I have his back, and it doesn't matter what he does or where he's at. As long as he calls upon the name of Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, that's my brother.

Rabbi Jeremy Gimpel: There is going to be, I think, a turn toward a more biblical Christianity, a more Jewish Christianity, and the lines between us - it was like, "Oh, those are Christians; those are Jews," are going to be like, "Oh, those are sort of like our brothers!"

Benjamin Netanyahu: Israel is grateful for the support of America's people and of America's presidents from Harry Truman to Barack Obama.

Barack Obama: In fact, I am proud to say that no US administration has done more in support of Israel's security than ours. None! Don't let anybody else tell you otherwise! It is a fact.

Mitt Romney: We recognize Israel's right to defend itself, and that it is right for America to stand with you.

John Hagee: Therefore it is time for America to embrace the words of Senator Joseph Liebermann and consider a military preemptive strike against Iran to prevent a nuclear holocaust in Israel and a nuclear attack in America.

Pastor Anderson: In 2 Chronicles 19, a godly king by the name of Jehoshaphat was going to help Israel militarily. Here is what God told him in verse 2:

"And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD."

Pastor Anderson: So we are told today that if we support the nation of Israel, we are going to be blessed by God because of Genesis 12, when in reality the Bible teaches that if we help an ungodly and wicked nation like Israel, we will have God's wrath upon us.

Pastor Filenius: Why should we as Bible believing Christians support the nation of Israel when the nation of Israel won't even allow a Christian to immigrate to their country. If you want to immigrate to Israel, you have to renounce the name of Jesus Christ.

Pastor Anderson: So for someone to become an Orthodox Jew or have the right of return, they have to renounce Christianity, for example.

Leader Schesnol: They do.

Rabbi Abrami: You can't be a Jew and a Christian. It's one or the other.

Leader Schesnol: So with regard to the modern state of Israel, it requires the renunciation of one's former religious affiliation, and it requires a number of rituals that are designed to cleanse one of their prior religious affiliation.

Pastor Anderson: So someone who is not a Jew doesn't just automatically have an invitation to immigrate to Israel then?

Leader Schesnol: Not as a citizen.

Pastor Anderson: So in order to immigrate to Israel, they would have to renounce Christianity in order...

Leader Schesnol: to become a citizen, and they would have to be converted by an orthodox rabbi.

Pastor Filenius: I personally know me who have gone over to Israel, believing that Israel is the promised land, and that the Jews are God's chosen people, and they go there with that in their heart, and they go there to witness to them and tell them about Christ, but it is illegal in Israel to pass out tracts. The cops will come and harass them, and they will even be under the threat of arrest or deportation. The Bible is true when it tells us that they are the enemies of the Gospel. Romans 11:28.

"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes."

Pastor Filenius: It says it right there in the word of God. They are the enemies of the Gospel.

Pastor Furse: In June 2014 during gay pride month, the United States embassy flew the American flag, and underneath the American flag, they hoisted the gay pride flag. For the last few years now, Tel Aviv has been voted the #1 gay city in the world amongst the gay community themselves. They voted Tel Aviv the #1 place in the world - not San Francisco, not New York, but Tel Aviv.

Glenn Beck: We were established for the establishment of Israel! Our markings are all over. Take out a dollar out of your pocket. Look at the great seal. You'll notice in between the wingspan of the eagle, you will see the star of David made out of 13 stars. Now why is the star of David there?

John Hagee: Around that star is the Shekinah glory cloud burst, symbolizing the Shekinah glory that was over the tabernacle. George Washington said, "I want that to be on the dollar so that people will recognize the contribution that the Jewish people have made to the United States of America."

Not only are today's Christians being taught to be pro-Jewish and pro-Israel, the strange doctrines of the Talmud and the Kabbalah are also creeping into churches and being taught as Christian doctrine. For example, many pastors will use the term "Shekinah" as if it were something from the Hebrew Old Testament, when in reality the word is never found in the Bible one time.

Rabbi Mann: So the "Shekinah" refers to the divine presence.

Rabbi Wiener: And it's a feminine word, by the way. It's not masculine.

TV Rabbi: For example, if Moses de León had come out and said, "I have an idea. God is a woman." That might not have gone over so well. But now he was saying that the ancient Rabbi Shimon was teaching us about Shekinah, the feminine half of God, and her romance with her divine partner, the Holy One, blessed be he.

Rabbi Wiener: So there is a belief that God could be both male and female.

Rabbi Abrami: The Shekinah is the indwelling presence of God in the universe. It's what eminates from the being of God. But for Jews, Shekinah and God are one and the same, and it is almost forbidden to separate them. God simply manifests himself, or herself, in the form of the inspiration of the Shekinah.

Pastor Furse: Shekinah is something that is part of the Talmud - something that is part of Judaism, not Christianity. And yet, how many Baptist preachers have used that phrase "Shekinah glory" in church, and it's not even scriptural.

TV Preacher 5: Friends, we need to grasp this, that the Shekinah glory is in us. This presence that we talked about, this presence that came in this upper room to the disciples, the Shekinah glory - it's in us as believers.

Pastor Anderson: The Bible is clear from Genesis to Revelation that God is a "he" not a "she." If you teach that God is both a "he" and a "she," you have a different god. The Christian Bible teaches that man was made in the image of God, and in 1 Corinthians 11 the Bible says:

"For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man."

Pastor Anderson: So according to 1 Corinthians 11, man is not to cover his head because man is in the image of God, as opposed to woman. That is why even in Genesis 1:27, it says:

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Pastor Anderson: They were created male and female, but he was created in the image of God. What does it mean to be in the image of God? to look like God. When Jesus walked on this earth, he was a man, and God the Father is masculine. This is a blasphemous teaching of new age mysticism that worships mother earth and the female spirit, and the goddess, and the Kabbalah, and the new age - that's where all this stuff is coming from.

Leonard Nimoy: This is the shape of the letter Shin - Hebrew alphabet Shin - a very interesting letter in the language. It is the first letter in the word Shaddai, the first letter in the word Shalom, and the first letter in the word Shekinah, which is the name of the feminine aspect of God.

Spock: Live long and prosper, image of Sirach, father of all we now hold true.

Leonard Nimoy: It's great. People don't realize they're blessing each other with this. (laughter)

When Christians learn the information presented thus far in this film, many are still hung up on the idea that the Jews are physically descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and that the rest of us are all Gentiles...but is it really that simple?

Pastor Anderson: The only way a person could really prove that they are a Jew would be with a genealogy. In fact, most of today's so-called Jews don't know what tribe they're from. Do people know in the Jewish community, "Hey, I'm of converts," or "Hey, I'm actually of the tribe of Judah or the tribe of Benjamin or the tribe of..."

Rabbi Mann: As far as the tribe is concerned, we don't know. I don't know what tribe I belong to. The only ones who do know are the Cohen. They know because that's transferred from father to son, father to son. Because there are still certain things that the Cohens/priests...certain blessings that he says, and so on and so forth. So they've kept their lineage. They know. Myself, I have no idea what tribe my ancestors belong to.

Pastor Anderson: And you say probably most Jews don't know what tribe?

Rabbi Mann: Nobody. That wasn't preserved. Today it's not important at all. No.

Pastor Anderson: If it really made a difference who is descended from Israel and who is not, then why would God tell us to avoid genealogies?

Pastor Romero: The Bible says in Titus 3:9 that we are to avoid genealogies. The New Testament is very clear. It doesn't matter where your physical ancestors came from.

Pastor Anderson: In Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile. The Bible says clearly:

"There is no difference between the Jew and the Greek."

So why do we think today that there is a difference between the Jew and the Greek? And we think that somehow if someone is descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, that they just somehow are automatically God's chosen people, whether or not they believe on Jesus Christ. They may be circumcised in the flesh, but the Bible says that it's the circumcision of the heart and the spirit that makes you a Jew in God's eyes.

Pastor Anderson: In 1 Timothy 1, it says in verse 4, "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies," - I want you to keep that phrase in your mind - "endless genealogies which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do." Now in Titus, he just said, "Avoid genealogies." Here he says to avoid "endless" genealogies. Now I am going to show you why genealogies are endless. They truly are endless. This is what a family tree looks like. Now at the bottom of this family tree, we just have one person, which is you. Now you descend from two people, don't you? Your mother and your father. So if we go back one generation, you come from two people as a direct descendant, but if we go back another generation, you don't just have two grandparents. You have four grandparents, and it keeps doubling because you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 16 great great grandparents, and you have 32 great great great grandparents. That means that if I were going to do a family tree that went back 5 generations, I would have to have a piece of paper wide enough to where at the top of that paper, I would be able to have 32 peoples names because that is how many ancestors I would have directly in that 5th generation. Now if I went to the 6th generation, my paper is going to have to be twice as wide because now I am going to have 64 slots to put in names. Well, what happens, though, is that as we go back further, this number gets really big. In order to understand how this chart works, we have to know how long a generation is. How long is the average generation?

Dr. Donald Yates: Well, they say 20-25 years.

Pastor Anderson: Now a generation has nothing to do with lifespan. For example, my mother was 30 years old when she gave birth to me, and women generally give birth between the ages of 20 and 40, so let's just take 30 as an average. 30 is a nice round number, and 30 is a very conservative number for this calculation. So a generation is 30 years, meaning that someone has a child when they are 30, and then they have a child when they are 30, and they have a child when they are 30. It has nothing to do with lifespan. That means that if we go back 10 generations, then that is 300 years. Let's just round off and say that if we went back in our family tree about 10 generations, we are going to be at about the year 1700. Now because our family tree is getting wider, if we wanted to do a complete family tree showing all of our ancestors back to the 10th generation, we would have to have a piece of paper wide enough to have 1,024 slots because 10 generations ago, there would be 1,024 people that we would directly descend from. Here is what I noticed when I did my family tree though. When I went back 10 generations, do you know what I started noticing? These are no longer unique people because there had been some intermarriage in that 300 years that had unknowingly taken place. Let's go back 20 generations. So now we are back around the year 1400. Well, if I wanted to have a complete family tree, I would have to have a piece of paper that could fit 1,048,576 names. That is a pretty big piece of paper. So in the year 1400, if I am going to trace all my ancestors, and I am going to tell you who all of my ancestors from the 1400s are, I would have to show you a family tree that just at the top would have a million some people - just in the top row, let alone everything else coming downward. If I were to go back 30 generations, now I am only in the year 1100. I am not even close to the time of Christ yet, am I? No. If I went back to the year 1100, thirty generations, I would have 1,073,741,824 ancestors in that generation. Listen, they are not all unique. When I did my genealogy, I found this relative that was my 10th great grandmother on this side and my 11th great grandmother over here because people marry their 5th and 6th cousins without knowing it. There is a lot repeating going on. What that shows is that there are a lot of people descending from the same people. They cannot help but intermarry. It is impossible not to because of these numbers. But the real number that we want to go back to is not 1100 A.D. Let's go back to 70 A.D. because 70 A.D. is when all the Jews were scattered. Now when you say scattered all over the world, do you mean that in the most literal sense? I mean, all nations?

Rabbi Wiener: Yes, in the most literal sense.

Pastor Anderson: If we were to go back to 70 A.D., and we were to have a family tree that shows all our ancestors in 70 A.D. and how they are connected, that top line would have 18 quintillion, 446 quadrillion, 744 trillion names from 70 A.D. Now who thinks that there were 18 quintillion, 446 quadrillion, 744 trillion people living at the time of Christ or shortly thereafter? No. In fact, the approximate population at that time was 200 milllion. Of that 200 million, let's just call 7-8 million Jews. You say, "Well, I don't like that number." Well, that number is not going to matter in a minute, so let's just call it 7-8 million. So if there are 200 million people on the earth at the time of the temple being destroyed, and about 7-8 million of them are Jews, then that means that if I have an ancestor from that era, there is a 1 in 27 chance that they were of Israel. So think about this: what if I were buying a lottery ticket, and the odds of that lottery ticket coming up a winner are 1 in 27 because that's the winning ticket that says, "You're Jewish! You're of the chosen people! You are of Israel! You are an Israelite indeed!" I have a 1 in 27 chance. You say, "Well, Pastor Anderson, if you have a 1 in 27 chance, you are probably not going to win that lottery because you have 26 chances of losing." Okay, but what if I buy 18 quintillion lottery tickets. Do you think I am going to win? Let me ask you this: how many times do I have to hit it to be descended from Abraham? How many times do I have to hit it to be descended from Israel? You say, "Well, you know, I'm black. I'm of Africa. How can I be connected with Abraham?" Well, stop and think about it. Think about Israel's children. One of Israel's children, Joseph: guess where his wife was from? Egypt. Joseph's wife was from Egypt. Where is Egypt? Africa. Moses' wife was Ethiopian. His second wife was Ethiopian. We already see, even in Bible days, intermingling with Africa - intermingling with the sons of Ham. If you think about it, the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh were half of Ham and half of Israel because Israel's son Joseph married an Egyptian woman, who was of Ham. All of the Ephraimites and Manassites were descended from Ham. Not only that, but all throughout history you have had merchants and missionaries and conquerors. Think of the Mongolian empire that went all over the world and that conquered China, the conquered Japan, that conquered Korea - all the ships that sailed and went here and there and everywhere. You only have to have one ancestor, out of your millions and millions of ancestors, you only have to have one that descends from Israel, and you are a direct descendant of Israel today. You sit there and say, "Oh, I'm just purely a white person. Oh, I'm just purely Asian. I'm just purely African." No, you're not. No one is.

Teresa Yates: People have been marrying and intermarrying for thousands of years, so you can't have any pure population.

Pastor Anderson: The Bible was right when it said that we are all of one blood.

Teresa Yates: Even populations that we think, "That has got to be 100%!" They are not 100%. There is no 100%.

Pastor Anderson: You can sit there and have your endless genealogy. It won't even be accurate because do you know what you can't tell from a genealogy? Somebody who committed adultery and lied to their husband and said, "Oh, yeah, this is your son," and he's not. You know, people do their genealogy, and they kind of just take everything as Gospel, when in reality there could be, as you euphemistically call them, "non-paternity events."

Dr. Donald Yates: There is a non-paternity index which has been estimated at 0.05 (5%) per generation, so if you go back 20 generations, you are likely to have a non-paternity event. That's the soft way of saying it, and if you consider that a generation is 20-25 years, that means in 500 years, you're due in that line to have a non-paternity event.

Pastor Anderson: Every 500 years?

Dr. Donald Yates: In one line!

Pastor Anderson: On one line!

Dr. Donald Yates: In one line, but how many lines do you have?

Pastor Anderson: So really, if somebody traces their genealogy, they couldn't really say, "Hey, I know for a fact that I know the whole story because I am looking at this genealogy," because the DNA test is going to reveal more.

Teresa Yates: Well, DNA doesn't lie. People lie. DNA doesn't lie.

Pastor Anderson: Right! So people could say, "Hey, I'm Jewish," or "I'm not Jewish," but the DNA...

Teresa Yates: DNA doesn't have an agenda. People have an agenda. People have reasons to lie, and also they just might not know the truth.

Pastor Anderson: Sure, so it's not even that they're lying, it's just that they're mistaken.

Teresa Yates: They're just passing on mistaken information.

Dr. Donald Yates: 1 out of 15 Americans is adopted or has a parent that was adopted. That's a pretty high number, too.

Pastor Anderson: Who can tell me all the people in your lineage that were adopted? "Oh yeah, my ancestors 300 years ago were adopted." You're not going to remember that. So, there are adoptions, there is infidelity, there is travelling, there is conquest, there are merchants, there are missionaries.

Teresa Yates: Different people have different things that they wanted to hide, and so they only tell you what they want you to hear.

Pastor Anderson: It doesn't matter where you're from, folks. Do you know why God said to avoid this? Because it hurts your mind to even think about this number! These numbers bend the mind! Just avoid it. Avoid endless genealogies. They minister questions. Does this make you feel really sure about your nationality now? No, it raises a lot of questions. So what do you think about somebody going down to the DNA lab and getting their DNA tested, and it comes back and says, "You have these Jewish ancestors."

Rabbi Wiener: I have no quarrel with them.

Pastor Anderson: Would you accept that?

Rabbi Wiener: Absolutely.

Pastor Anderson: It is so possible because they were so scattered.

Rabbi Wiener: Yeah, I would never argue with it.

Pastor Anderson: The director of this film, Paul Wittenberger, and I are just a couple of white guys. We've never been told that we're Jewish or have any Jewish ancestors, but we're going to go down and get our DNA tested and just find out if we do.

Lab Technician: We match your DNA profile against over 400 population groups worldwide, and we present you with the top 50, and for ancestral DNA, we don't have to get thumbprints. There is not a legal document, so that's all we need: the swab and the name. So these will go out tonight. We should get results back in about 3-4 weeks.

Pastor Anderson: A few weeks later Paul and I got our results back, and just like they said, we were a mixture of a whole bunch of different nationalities. We had everything from Arab to Brazilian, Native American, and there were a lot of things on there that were a big surprise. And sure enough, when we looked at our deep ancestry, which goes back further than the top 50, we both had markers for Jewish DNA, so I figured I'd get my grandma's DNA tested to see if Jewish made it into her top 50. We tested my grandma. She is 94 years old, and we wanted to swab her while she is still with us.

Teresa Yates: Oh, yes, that's very important.

Pastor Anderson: So, we got it. All right, grandma's results are in. Let's check them out. All right, let's see her top 50 first of all. Number 1 - Ashkenazi Jew - number 1.

Paul Wittenberger: No way!

Pastor Anderson: So that explains why it was in my deep ancestry because it's her number 1 of her 50 nationalities. And her number 1 result was Hungarian Ashkenazi Jew, so her number 1 result was Ashkenazi Jewish.

Teresa Yates: Wow! Well, with DNA Consultants, we've done this for many, many years. I haven't seen that very often, and every report, like I'm saying, is unique. People are like, "Oh, it's probably very general." No. Everybody's very unique. I don't know when I've seen number 1 Ashkenazi.

Pastor Anderson: Really? Cool!

Teresa Yates: Maybe 3 or 5 times.

Pastor Anderson: So, let me ask you this...

Teresa Yates: That is very rare.

Pastor Anderson: So if grandma's DNA had number 1 Ashkenazi, is there any doubt that she is an Ashkenazi Jew?

Teresa Yates: No.

Pastor Anderson: And if she is my grandmother, then what does that make me?

Teresa Yates: You're Jewish.

Pastor Anderson: So I'm Jewish?

Teresa Yates: You don't have to accept the religion.

Pastor Anderson: Right, but I mean ethnically speaking...

Teresa Yates: Ethnically you are.

Pastor Anderson: So you've now pronounced me...

Teresa Yates: I now pronounce you Jewish!


Pastor Coleman: Is that really what it all boils down to? Good night! DNA? Are you kidding me? What about Jesus? What about faith in Christ? How in the world can God's people be determined by DNA?

Pastor Berzins: Look, it doesn't matter what our genealogy says. It doesn't matter what our DNA results are. None of that is even important. The only thing that really matters is that we are a child of God through faith in Jesus Christ.

Pastor Coleman: And I found so much proof that Israel over there is not the Israel that God is talking about. We who have believed in God, who have the faith of Abraham, are the children of God. We are the seed of Abraham.

Pastor Romero: It says in Romans 9:7,

"Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."

Pastor Romero: So the Bible says the children of the flesh, the physical children of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - it specifically spells out and says that they are not the children of God.

Pastor Berzins: In fact, in Galatians 3 it explains that we're the children of Abraham. It says,

"Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham."

Texe Marrs: It's amazing to me though how Christians overlook Galatians 3. Now I'm almost 70 years old. I'm an old man, but I never, ever heard a sermon on Galatians 3:29.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

Texe Marrs: Both of those are fantastic. Who is the heir to the promise? Whoever has Jesus!

Pastor Anderson: Ephesians 2:11 reads,

"Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."

Verse 19: "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;"

Pastor Anderson: According to this scripture we are fellowcitizens of Israel because back in verse 12 he said that when ye were without Christ, ye were aliens of Israel. You were strangers and foreigners to Israel, but in verse 19 he says that now you are fellowcitizens with the saints. So who is the true Israel? Is it some guy over in the Middle East who doesn't even believe in Jesus and is worshiping Shekinah? Or is it the true believer of the Lord Jesus Christ who has been grafted in and brought nigh unto Israel.

Texe Marrs: It's very simple. Jesus said in Matthew 21:43,

"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."

Texe Marrs: Wow. They didn't bear fruits. They refused Jesus. They refused redemption. They refused to recognize the deliverer of Zion: the very Christ Jesus! And Jesus said that because of that, the kingdom is taken from you and given to another nation. Well, what is that nation? Is it Syria? Is it America? Is it England? Is it Germany? No, no, no! A spiritual nation!

"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy."

Pastor Anderson: The Bible is not a book about God blessing one nation. That's why God told Abraham, "In thee shall all nations of the earth be blessed," and that blessing is through Abraham's seed, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Pastor Furse: You know, the Bible says in Hebrews 11 that Abraham wasn't looking for a physical land. He looked for a city which hath foundations whose builder and maker is God.

Pastor Berzins: We as Christians are looking for a new Jerusalem. We're looking for a heavenly city as Hebrews 11, the faith chapter, points out,

"But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city."

Pastor Berzins: God has prepared a city for us - a city that we can't find physically on this earth because it is a heavenly city. It is something that God has prepared for those who have faith in him.

Pastor Jimenez: When we're looking for Zion, and when we're looking for Jerusalem, we're not looking for the one which now is. We're not looking for the one that we can touch. We're not looking for the one that is spiritually Sodom and spiritually Egypt. We're looking for the one that is heavenly - the one that is to come.

Pastor Anderson: The Bible says in Hebrews 12:22,

"But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,"

Pastor Anderson: So according to the New Testament, Zion is the heavenly Jerusalem, not the physical Jerusalem that now is. The heavenly Jerusalem will descend down from Heaven. That is our capital city. That is our Zion.

Pastor Coleman: And so, I'm Israel! Those people over there are not Israel. That's why Paul said, "They are not all Israel, which are of Israel:" They may be of Israel genealogically speaking, but they are not Israel as God counts it - what his original intent was - a people that are a praise and a glory to him.

Pastor Anderson: We as Christians are the chosen people of God. We are the true Israel, and we are marching to Zion.

Texe Marrs: The name of this video is Marching to Zion. We know that as a great title of a Gospel song. It means marching with Jesus at the very head of the formation.

Pastor Coleman: We sing songs like, "We're marching to Zion." I love that song! I just love it. "We're marching to Zion, beautiful, beautiful Zion. We're marching upward to Zion, the beautiful city of God." It's the city of God. It sits on the sides of the north. That's God's home, and one day he is going to bring it down to earth. It is going to be on the earth. We are going to inherit the earth because we are God's people. We who have believed in Christ are God's people. We are Israel. We are princes with God, and we're going to reign with him forever.

Texe Marrs: I would love to see the Quran thrown away, destroyed, put in a bonfire, not because I hate the Muslims. No! I would love for them to become Christians. I would love to see the Talmud and all its 36 volumes - oh, what a bonfire we could have with that! As a Christian, I say, let these books exist. Let the Quran exist. Let the Talmud exist because if people read those, and then they read the New Testament, you must come to the conclusion that Jesus Christ is Lord.